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Deborah Carver's avatar

Public congratulations is an expectation only of the extremely online, generally of people who are less established in their careers. Maybe it's because social media wasn't popular until I was out of college, but I've never done this outside of the occasional LinkedIn posts, and I've never expected my friends to publicly celebrate my wins. I don't join into social media requests for post promotion unless it's really related to my core expertise, and the Xennial in me thinks it's a tacky pyramid scheme.

Personally, I use the apps as designed: I look at what the algo surfaces, and if I like the content, I press the like button. that's it. there is no deeper meaning.

Yet I have a successful career doing the internet. Most of the people I know who have successful careers in doing the internet don't spend their days congratulating each other.

The public cycle of congratulations was invented by people (mostly social media managers, god love them) who claim to understand "the algorithms" but it's really only the same, very small percentage of people who believe internet popularity has any correlation to success in real life, feeling like their friendships are transactional, having way too many thoughts about something they could just opt out of and no one would care very much.

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Anu's avatar

Agree with a good chunk of what you’ve said, though I’m realizing it has a lot to do with which industries / communities /platforms you’re involved in online, and likely generational cohorts as well. I didn’t speak much of the positive aspects of some of these spaces, which then eventually expose people to the negative or performative aspects; if not for the former, it wouldn’t be much a challenge to leave them entirely.

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Deborah Carver's avatar

I'm curious as to what your perception of positive aspects are. For me, internet popularity has never correlated with the things in my professional or personal life that bring satisfaction. Insofar as the industries, I would maybe avoid giving too much credence to any business that overvalues performative online success.

Historically media loves when they get free work from the entry level, but they don't really respect you for it long-term.

Most "creator economy" logic is folklore invented by investors; my business advice is always to build something that does not rely too heavily on your friends. There are plenty of folks in your generation who are successful in media/tech without the online element.

Conditional or transactional support is never a sign of a strong social relationship or true influence.

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Ryan K. Rigney's avatar

Liking, commenting, and restacking for entirely selfless—laudable, some would say—reasons

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Anu's avatar

must be exceptions to every rule

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Voideternity's avatar

So you bring up really good points, I was thinking about this as well. For survival, for economic reasons, you cannot easily be invisible. So as you said, either you have the FU money already, then you might not care, otherwise you need to dance. Now, I guess there are different ways to do it, more tasteful or less tasteful ways. Twitter itself is quite tasteless, quite a circus. So I think if you see through the charade and the superficiality of all of it, then you actually want to opt out. But then if you completely opt out, you will have less opportunities in the network system. It's quite a dilemma, I would say.

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Anu's avatar

Every era has its version of having to see through the charade and live inside it nonetheless, I suppose the awareness confers some agency!

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Voideternity's avatar

yeah I guess being aware of it also allows a more authentic approach:)

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kahani's avatar

i’m not sure if i should comment that i liked this post but i did haha

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Anu's avatar
11hEdited

ignore the first 1500 words and do what the last 50 tell you!

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Chris Spanos's avatar

I switched to this model a number of years ago. Richer relationships with more meaningful and valued feedback both giving and receiving.

“One remedy I’m contemplating: supporting fewer people with less obligation and more creativity. Thoughtful DMs, handwritten notes, genuine feedback, doing more in real life instead of online. Gestures not optimized for visibility.”

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Anu's avatar

I’ve already been in that model too, but I can’t help but see the strings that keep trying to pull you back, and all the people dancing.

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Vystique's avatar

Ohh i loved this! You put it into words better than I could have. This phenomena has been bothering me for a while now, I started focusing on showing up in real life more than online. It works with some people, however, others are still stuck in the loop. They crave online validation more than anything (I was a victim of this too so I get it).

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Anu's avatar

I actually cope fine I just can’t unsee what I see!

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Dre's avatar

Really appreciate your vulnerability here. The topic of status has haunted me since going to an elite school in search of intelligent renegades and finding instead the most status-crazed, status-quo-reinforcing people I’d ever known.

I’ve come to think of the energetic drain from these social absurdities as a type of intelligence—the body’s way of protecting you from metabolic burnout. And you frequenting the theme of status has further made me realize there’s some great opportunity to really dissect status in a way that doesn’t readily acquiesce to its low-grade forms (abstracted away from substance, focused on signaling). I remember David Spinks actually wrote on status, rerooting the concept in participatory community.

If, per chance, pulling on that thread intrigues you, I’ll keep my eyes peeled.

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Anu's avatar

Yes! It’s a topic I find evergreen in the way its rears itself. I think I’m fairly grounded, don’t feel captured by social media really, but I can’t unsee the strings being pulled is maybe the best way to put it. I’ve written about status before, and where I think focus should go as well - David is a thoughtful person here for sure

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Varnit's avatar

Love your work.

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Anu's avatar

Haha ty

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Emma D's avatar

The kind of mental gymnastics you've just described makes me grateful to be in a non-online-content-creating "regular office" job in which it is wholly unnecessary. If I accomplish something cool it will gradually trickle through my network as I chat to people in person, and that's enough for me.

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Anu's avatar

Living the dream (which many people will revert back to)!

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Joshua Pham's avatar

Noticing another continuum here: annotations / marginalia on the one end, quote tweets / reaction videos on the other. I think with the former, the only performance on display is spectacular failures to revisit responses that meant something. But maybe that should have a more meaningful audience

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Anu's avatar

Can you say more about the annotations / marginalia piece - this is private or public? And social?

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Joshua Pham's avatar

Ah I was thinking private and not social! Like leaving notes in the margins of books when something stands out. A level deeper than highlighting. Not the same as "highlighted by 109 others" while on Kindle, although that is more social

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Anu's avatar
11hEdited

I think open sourced marginalia would be popular with the literary crowd, good Substack power feature, like inline footnotes.

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Joshua Pham's avatar

my instinct is that books / articles don't feel social, but evoke more interesting responses (marginalia) than social feeds. Aggregating marginalia is powerful but is not the most user friendly / social experience (spread across platforms).

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Anu's avatar
10hEdited

Send me the prototype once you build it!

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Joshua Pham's avatar

https://enzyme.garden is how i use this currently! https://x.com/jphorism/status/1971269999726932327?s=46 wrote a tweet about it

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Siddhesh's avatar

"Her emotions had their truest existence in the telling of them." F. Scott Fitzgerald

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Anu's avatar

they don’t make quotes like this anymore

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David Jackman's avatar

Thank you for writing such a thought provoking and wise article.

I have never been truly a social media person as I saw most of it as superficial and just noise. False praise is worthless. Now I am truly post economic and hugely grateful for it. I no longer have 500+ useless Linked in contacts etc (all looking for a job). Chatter elsewhere has minimal merit.

This means I have to be happy with the few true friends rather than a stack of pseudo friends.

Feels isolated but ceratinly not. You can still be alone in a massive crowd. Alone gives you time to reflect - as long as not circular!

The amazing thing is the removal of the chattering noise. Silence is indeed beautiful. Listen to the birds chatter rather that useless stuff.

I know my stress and inflamation levels in my blood is now very low and my happiness is way up.

Never be afraid of pulling the plug. Stop an addictive habit you have been taught for a while and you will likely never go back.

Thanks again.

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Anu's avatar

Thanks for the anecdote! I agree with much of the cons listed here, and exit is great for your sanity if you can do it. One challenge in modern times is that some real communities exist heavily online - with positive cultural aspects and avenues to meet people, make friends, etc. It’s easier to quit something entirely than to find a happy medium at times

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David Spinks's avatar

"I’m not necessarily trying to do less, just do it awake."

That's essentially where I've landed too. I can play the game, as long as I'm not pretending I'm not.

I wonder if there's anything we can do that wouldn't be considered performative when we're doing it on a stage. You can be as "authentic" as you want, when you're doing it in front of an audience, it will still be seen as performance.

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Anu's avatar

You’re ahead on the game, literally and metaphorically! I almost think the minute you’re conscious of an audience (to varying degrees) you are performing, and the extent to which you feel like it or don’t is just good for internal sense of alignment and mental health

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Santosh Singh's avatar

What an extraordinary and incisive post!!!

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Anu's avatar

🙏 thx for reading!

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Paul's avatar

You're clearly more aware of this phenomenon than most, who remain totally oblivious to their lives of performance. That said, I feel sorry for you - that you nevertheless subscribe to the belief that any of this public performance is necessary.

It's not. Just give it up. Keep producing and sharing the great content you do.

And if any supposed "friends" are upset that you support them privately but not in public, screw them. They're not genuine friends, they're just guilt-tripping you with peer pressure.

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Venu Vasudevan's avatar

Growing up in a family (likely not unlike yours!) where the best you could be was average, where praise was limited to Olympic Gold Medals and Nobel Prizes .. for a bit I pined to trade places with a friend whose family of Jute merchants celebrated the fact that he went to college at all (while chastising him for earning a salary that was below the what they paid their accountant to avoid taxes).

As we move into an exponential era - I'm happy in hindsight to be born into a 'success is the enjoyable process of chasing the worthy but highly improbable'. I think the British 'quite' is sufficient for interim successes1

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